Dinardi. There was an old music hall act whose tag line was "He fills the stage with flags!". Dinardi doesn't use flags.
https://youtu.be/cT0AueXMJe4
Daniel Simu - - Vorredner #
Haha, that's a weird act!
Cedric Lackpot - - Vorredner #
I'd suggest the flags in question are don't really look like irises.
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Note to Orinoco: This post is b0rked. Preview wouldn't render it correctly, even when I edited it, and I have no access to the full editor since the reply page only gives a link to causal diagram help.
Not sure exactly what the problem is here. Did the preview render for you but not as expected or did it not render at all as per that screenshot? If that is not the 'full editor' in that screenshot what precisely is missing from it?
Cedric Lackpot - - Vorredner #
It should've read :-
"I'd suggest the flags in question are irises, but they don't really look like irises."
... with a link to Wiktionary on the first 'irises'.
I was going to check the source, but without the means to reach the full editor I couldn't do that either. I note that I still do not have access to the full editor in comment replies.
That was rubbish, he didn't catch a single thing!
I did like the orange stripey suit at 1:58 though.
Little Paul - - Vorredner #
I love that, you just don't see production acts any more.
Also, those spring flowers are gorgeous! i haven't seen any that well made in a long time, most I've seen available commercially look more like feather dusters.
Which is of course, more or less what they are
Daniel Simu - - Vorredner #
No more production acts? There are still some people performing with loads of bottles and umbrellas, right?
I love that you just don't see production acts any more.
I saw a production at the start - in the basket. After that, all I saw was some people unpacking some boxes on stage (albeit with great enthusiasm).
lukeburrage - - Vorredner #
I'm so glad that I've never had to sit through an act like this live. It's interesting to see the video, from a historical perspective, but I found myself using the "skip forward 10 seconds" function over and over, waiting for something to happen.
Prepping for this act must have sucked. Packing all of those things into boxes....
Whereas I was thinking of the poor stage-hands having to quickly clear all that stuff off the stage. Hope the compare has lots of filler material.
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Ping Pong:
https://youtu.be/Y9cF3jXgaac
There's some impressive skills in there - and more than a little sillyness
Daniel Simu - - Vorredner #
This is what the internet was meant to be like!
Richard Loxley - - Vorredner #
Reminds me of playing ping-pong with a teaspoon at Bungay (I had just finished eating a yoghurt and was passing the table mid-game as I returned my teaspoon).
I actually did much better than I had expected! Do try it, it was great fun :-)
Awesome New Modular LED 100mm Juggling Spheres
https://glowbsofficial.tumblr.com/
Our Kickstarter goes on in a little less then 7 days and were looking for support from the community to bring this project to life after 3 years of development!
There is also a competition on our page for 1 of 2 juggling sets or Glowbs poi!
Do you have a video of this concept in action?
Personally I'm not seeing the potential or the potential market for this concept. Contact balls generally seem to work best when they are transparent (the coloured acrylics do not look as good - just look at what contact juggling performers use). Why would glowing balls be better?
100 mm is on the large size for normal juggling. Why would a performing juggler use these instead of any of the other glow juggling balls out there?
What are the benefits of these over other glow poi? There are already many designs of programmable poi, these are larger but less useful than pixel poi (by the look of the website). Why would a poi player choose these?
Please give clear answers to these questions to show why I should invest money in your concept. As someone who has performed all three skills professionally (albeit far from expertly with poi and contact juggling) if there were good reasons to use these I might be tempted to buy them.
Nigel
Little Paul - #
Kururin - seems to be growing in popularity in the USA at the moment, but I hadn't seen it:
https://youtu.be/CN0GxoD_6g4
Does anyone have a source for them in the U.K.? It seems like just the sort of thing I could get stuck into.
Alternatively, does anyone with a lathe fancy making some up before BJC? There's a template here https://postimg.org/image/8ek05j93n/
I'll try one next time I'm in the shed but I suspect that it might be better to CNC them to get a matching curve at each end.
I've been following the facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/377903982559978/
I was planning to bring a few to the BJC and maybe run a short workshop to let people try. I think a European distributor is being sorted out for the Comcell Kururins is being sorted out.
My Kururin shape designer:
https://youtu.be/u-7B1mDVLxs
Me making one:
https://youtu.be/UXuQS1VkpDM
Here are two ways to make one: https://youtu.be/GZ_oxNaSLyk
I'd already printed out and laminated a template and have just ordered some foam. I might have time to try one on Wednesday. It should be a good way to use up off cuts - I have lots!
I made up a little gauge to help making them if that's of any use: https://jonathanjamieson.com/2017/02/25/kururin-gauge-design-files/
Nice gauge. I guess you know that the one in the picture is labelled gouge?
No laser cutter here so I'll be going for the template and calliper method.
Yeah, that spelling has caused a number of problems with file names and links going wrong... I just can't get it in my head that's how to spell it! I am going to update the photos soon but I didn't have any of the correctly spelled gauges cut at the time. You can print off and cut my one out, it comes as a PDF but if you have multiple calipers it's probably not worth it. I only have one pair.
Will you be at the BJC? If so I can cut you one, I have lots of spare acrylic so it's no problem at all.
You can never have too many calipers!
Thanks for the offer of an acylic template. Yes, I'll be at BJC - haven't missed one since I started many years ago.
Haven't had a chance to make any yet - instead I've just had a couple of evenings sat on a beach watching the northern lights :-D
Very jealous. We're heading north tonight for a bothy trip, fingers crossed to see the Northern lights but the forecast isn't great I think.
I have only just got into turning. There are so many things to buy I only have one set of outer calipers so I soon got frustrated when I had to keep changing them. I'll bring a few of the gauges with with me, so if anyone else wants one they can too.
Bothy trips are fun - which one you heading to? I was thinking of heading up somewhere in Scotland next week, or maybe just out to one of my local Northumberland ones
Peanmeanach Bothy - was an incredible weekend! Fire me an email (unigamer@gmail.com) so we don't fill up Small Talk!
I've made 10 or so from various off cuts and most seem to work reasonably well. It'll be interesting to see how they compare to yours.
Nice instructable - it was on the staff pick of the week. The sanding jig is an interesting idea - I noticed that one of mine isn't sanded flat but it still seems to work ok
Little Paul - - Vorredner #
That was the video that originally sent me off down the youtube rabbit hole on this one. I'm trying to find myself the time and space to have a go at a modified version of the second method (as I don't have a lathe) It'll involve a certain amount of making an improvised lathe out of a power drill and a vice....[1] but the threaded rod used as a tap is a nice touch.
Duncan, I apologise for shamelessly baiting you into making one - but it did strike me as being right up your street :)
[1] as AvE says "tighten her until she cracks, then back off half a turn"
juggling.tv had this as a featured video the other day: http://juggling.tv/798
It is pretty amazing. LP, how gaffed do you think his golf club trick is? I remember you saying that yours is reasonably honest. His looks a little too good.
Little Paul - - Vorredner #
I'm pretty sure it's on the more "secure" end of the gaff scale.
Mine is gaffed the minimum required to make the trick possible, but it's not really practical for 3-performances-a-day if I were pro I'd go down the more secure route.
Incidentally, for me the most impressive bit of the routine is the setup and the flute.
The flute because...? I've never thought the flute particularly adds to the difficulty, because it only requires movement of the fingers, whereas the violin under the mouthstick-bow seems more in danger of upsetting the balance. On the other hand I've never done the golf club balance, although I did play the flute in my school years.
Little Paul - - Vorredner #
It's mostly "maintaining the balance while on one knee, picking up the flute, then standing and playing while driving the balance so it moves up and down" - There's so much going on there that carrying a tune competently is reasonably tricky.
Also, if you compare how many hours it takes to learn the golf club trick with how many hours it takes to learn the flute - well... the flute is harder!
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A tropical juggling convention in Germany
https://youtu.be/9_qBbP3_ciM
#TropicalIslandInvasion2017
This popped up up today. Very cool I thought..
https://youtu.be/28eIERGLFZ8
lukeburrage - - Vorredner #
I saw his show a few years ago. It's really cool live too. He recently performed at the Cirque Du Demain, but in the non-TV broadcast show.
pumpkineater23 - - Vorredner #
I'm used to seeing juggling balls bouncing, balancing etc but floating is not something I've seen before. I'd be interested to see more!
Daniel Simu - - Vorredner #
it is really cool! have seen it twice now, definitely one of my favorite performers already!
Do you know if there is a bit more of it available online somewhere?
That teaser is working very well (I really want to see the show), but my chances of ever being able to see it live are pretty much nil at this point....
Daniel Simu - - Vorredner #
I don't believe so, but there are trailers of his other creations, in particular his recent one man show Deluge is worth checking out
https://www.sansgravite.com/
lukeburrage - - Vorredner #
I took some photos of his act, and if you look at the high resolution versions you can see some of how some of it works: http://www.lukeburrage.com/photography/Brianza-2011/Brianza-2011-by-Luke-Burrage-174.jpg for example
See some other photos here: http://www.lukeburrage.com/blog/archives/1307
lukeburrage - - Vorredner #
You know, editing forum posts would be super, super, super handy.
lukeburrage - - Vorredner #
All other forum software I use has either live previews, edit buttons, or both.
lukeburrage - - Vorredner #
If a webmaster edited my post, I hope they realized my mistake was that an image showed at all. It's a full resolution jpg which is way too much bandwidth for nice mobile browsing. It should be a link to the image, not an image displayed.
"Embed Images" is a per-user Edge setting (Me > Edit Settings) for image links. Perhaps some kind of < noembed > tag would be useful, though. Hmm.
I wonder what happens with words hyperlinked to image files.
I wonder what happens with words hyperlinked
to image files.
Right, that didn't help. Oh well... To Meta!
pumpkineater23 - - Vorredner #
So, Helium and strings are the tools for the 'weightlessness' - is that correct or is there more to it? I'd love to see more, really interesting idea and such an amazing effect. Does it look more 'obvious' when you see it live?
Daniel Simu - - Vorredner #
It is all super obvious to me, there is not a single technique in there which I couldn't describe right now. However I was watching this show with a bunch of circus students, and multiple told me they were mesmerized and confused! He does present it terribly well...
lukeburrage - - Vorredner #
When I was watching it live, it wasn't always clear to begin with which ball was which (normal ball, helium filled ball, helium ball with thread) until he got into that section of the routine. But then, as you say, it didn't seem particularly confusing, just presented so well that nobody was quite sure what would happen next.
From the audience it wasn't possible to see the thread, or not from any distance. It was only when I looked at my photos later that I could see the exact shape of the thread loop and how he would be slipping it around different fingers and such.
Daniel Simu - - Vorredner #
Thanks Luke, that reminds me a quick correction: I saw the act twice. The first time round, most effects surprised me, especially because there is no visual difference between the balls! When I saw it again a year later, I knew what to watch for and only THEN it was easy to follow :)
I was just pointed at this article via Twitter: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/archive-digitizing-history-circus-180962100/
It links to the Illinois State University's Circus and Allied Arts Archive. Which has a great collection of photos: https://digital.library.illinoisstate.edu/cdm/landingpage/collection/circus
Some potentially interesting stuff.
Little Paul - - Vorredner #
I'll have a bit more of a rummage later, but there are some nice combination tricks in there... for example
https://digital.library.illinoisstate.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/circus/id/8888/rec/5
That's got a ball spinning on a ring held in the performers hand, which is something I'd known was possible from my ball spinning experience, but which I've never seen included in an act.
I liked this one too https://digital.library.illinoisstate.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/circus/id/4996/rec/13
Little Paul - - Vorredner #
Francis Brunn out of costume: https://digital.library.illinoisstate.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/circus/id/1751/rec/1
Francis Brunn in costume: https://digital.library.illinoisstate.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/circus/id/1782/rec/15
In fact, there are several pictures of Francis and Lotti in colour wearing costumes I don't think I've seen elsewhere https://digital.library.illinoisstate.edu/cdm/search/collection/circus/searchterm/brunn/order/title
Harsh photographer's note: https://digital.library.illinoisstate.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/circus/id/1311/rec/2
Fun photographers note: https://digital.library.illinoisstate.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/circus/id/1748/rec/6
This is of limited interest, but will appeal to those who like 'lost' juggling tricks.
I've just found this trick that I've seen written up in a couple of old juggling/magic manuscripts, but never seen performed - egg balance/roll along a stick.
The trick starts around 0:33, and only lasts a few seconds:
http://juggling.tv/16302
It's followed by some nice clear footage of the Reverhos trio.
The egg to me behaves like it were hollow and a small lead ball (or even a round bar in a cylindric chamber?!) inside somewhat stabilizing the balance .. hard to see if, above that, the stick has a guidance. I'd then rate this rather magic, a surprising effect, than not indeed really balancing skill.
It's the 4 toddlers at 0:25, being indoctrinated/brainwashed that I feel sorry for.
Little Paul - - Vorredner #
I agree, it's nice to see that clown gag actually performed. I've seen write-ups of a couple of methods but there isn't quite enough footage from quite the right angle for me to be confident about which method they're using.
Anyway - are we seriously not mentioning that the club+ball stacked on the mouthstick is spinning, and appears like it might be being driven by the performer?
I've seen people do that with bottles, but only ever fat-end-down where the control required to drive the rotation isn't as fine - and those performers were generally not doing it as part of a combination trick on a slackwire.
Ooh, well spotted. I missed that. Shame you cant see all of it, or for longer. I was getting this precession when placing a club balance onto another club the other day, and that was a bit annoying. Maybe the small point of contact means it's difficult for it to "go anywhere"?
The other thing that's easy to miss is the parasol-spinning on the foot of the one- handed handstand on slack-wire, almost entirely framed- out by the camera.
https://p0.storage.canalblog.com/00/41/1180517/91120153_o.jpg.
Spouts of Fury: When Tea and Kung Fu Collide.
I found this on reddit where one of the /r/juggling subscribers mentioned it in an entirely different sub - thanks, /u/Sub_Mentions bot! - and I thought The Edge would appreciate the skills and the sentiments.
LP will undoubtedly revile the paucity of biscuits, but you can't have everything can you?
Daniel Simu - - Vorredner #
That is amazing! I can't yet find such a teapot on ebay :(
Little Paul - - Vorredner #
More detail about the form here: https://www.teavivre.com/info/gongfu-tea-long-pot/
I haven't yet found a source for long pots, but it feels like a lot of the moves could be achieved with a long spout watering can, the sort used for houseplants.
That is lovely.
The numerous origins are very interesting. If I was an emperor fearing assassination I don't think making people carry a spear like tea pot would make me feel at ease.
Daniel Simu - - Vorredner #
I thought exactly the same, haha!